Advice for Young Creatives (Blog Version)

Image: Cassandra in front of a Blue Screen on Set of Lost & Found.

Background in the Film Industry:

I’ve spent more than a decade as a script supervisor, but my journey has been a kaleidoscope of roles – from the whirlwind chaos of a production assistant to a transcriptionist for reality TV, and I’ve delved into the technical side as a sound assistant, camera assistant, and even flexing some muscles as a grip. Transport, directing, production coordinating, and even behind the lens as a photographer – you name it, I’ve probably tried it. And that is one of my biggest pieces of advice that I hope you can take from this. Experiment, try different things. Especially if you want to work on a film set in a position of power (*cough*director*cough*). The more you understand and appreciate the roles of the crew around you, the better you’ll be able to orchestrate the team to create the best product you can. Which leads to the conversation around Art as a Business. Your art is a product, designed for an audience, and you are a business. But we’ll get more into that. People often equate art with passion and forget that there is a lot of money and business involved in the industry, in fact only about a quarter of the filmmaking process actually takes place during production. From concept to distribution there is so much going on behind the scenes, and all of those cogs and wheels need to work in tune. 

If I had remembered to keep track of all the shenanigans, I’d have quite the memoirs by now. Working in film and the arts is dramatic and you’re gonna get really familiar with the phrase “Hurry up and wait,” in many situations.  As I mentioned in a blog post a few weeks ago, burnout is a big thing in the film industry, which I will touch on briefly here as well. I hit my limit recently and moved away from working directly on set to more support and film adjacent roles but I think I have a few experiences others can learn from and I am happy to share.  If you want to learn more about me, check out my other blog posts or my about page

Image Source: https://nofilmschool.com/2017/03/what-is-a-script-supervisor 

Role of a Script Supervisor:

Expanding a bit on the role of a script supervisor, I want to give you a glimpse into the complexities of my former job. It’s not just about making sure actors say the right lines or if the props are in the correct hands or placed in the correct part of the room, it’s about working with all of the departments on set to help maintain the continuity of the story world. From eyelines to camera angles, where are the actors coming from and where are they going, reading the off camera lines and keeping track of all the changes to the scripts, blocking, slates and the number of shots and where they fall in the scope of the script, there’s a method to the madness. Unlike what a lot of people expect of a script supervisor, though we work with the directors and can be their greatest allies, ultimately don’t answer to them. We answer to the producers and editors. We’re the editors eyes on set. We work to collaborate with all departments to maintain the sense of the story world. And often, the script supervisor’s role isn’t fully understood by the crew. Every job on a film set is necessary for one reason or another, but we all work together and have our time to do our jobs.  Script Supervising is also a department of one. Very rarely do you have more than one script supervisor on set at a time, and though there is a union category for assistant script supervisor, it is under-utilized and limited as a position. 

If you are interested in learning more about script supervising, I have some great referral links listed at the bottom of this post and on my affiliates page. I highly recommend Danila Saioni as a teacher, she taught me how to script supervise years ago in person. She is a dynamic and engaging person with endless entertaining and informative stories from her tenure as an IA script supervisor. 

What success looks like vs what people think it looks like. Graphic. What you think is a straight arrow and reality is a tangled line.

Source: https://www.kevincsnyder.com/what-success-really-looks-like/

Career Path and Progression:

Forget the idea of a straightforward path – it’s almost a cliche to say now but most careers are more like a maze with unexpected twists. I started in nonunion productions, tackling whatever came my way before moving into more established roles. My first job was as a PA for a TV showcase of Festivals around North America and they were featuring Toronto Buskerfest. Fresh from graduating Windsor’s Drama & Communications Studies program, I felt right at home behind the scenes in the performers area.  

A quick note on my choice in University. Back in 2002/2003 when I was applying for post secondary education, University of Windsor was the only school that allowed me to take both Drama & Communications Studies as a double major. Most other schools said that they had nothing to do with one another, but I always saw them as intrinsically connected. Where Windsor allowed any double major combination and promoted intersectional education, most schools seemed to resist it. Art and media exist in all industries, and art has always been an intersectional common ground for industry. Everyone needs a communications department and a lot of the skills taught in “traditional” arts are actually in demand, in conjunction with other “serious” skills like math and science. 

But back to my story (for now) Over my early years building up my resume, I worked part time jobs for years while trying to collect enough experience on set to apply for bigger and better things. I volunteered with the CFC for various shorts and student showcases. I took ridiculously low rates of pay, just for the privilege of being on set at first. I was always aware of how easily I could be replaced, and often pushed myself harder, both mentally and physically; which, years later, I am definitely regretting as I now have to make time for illness, instead of maintaining my wellness over the years. 

Also, if not for my own self down, I might have jumped in head first way sooner. Since then I have worked with enough first time directors who knew way less than I did when I was just applying to be a PA. 

My first Script Supervising gig was taking over half way through a 5 day CFC short film shoot I showed up on set, with only a vague understanding of the position, having never seen the script and no one had sent me any of the images for matching action or notes from the first two days of shooting. So I pulled one of the best fake it til you make it moments of my career. I showed up with confidence and really got along with the cast and crew and though my paperwork at the end of the day was seriously lacking, the film looked amazing in the end. Five years later, when I was once again working with that young, up and coming director (who is still one of my favourite people I had the pleasure of working with) on another project, he mentioned how I “saved” the production and my experience and professionalism had really made an impression on him. He was even more impressed when I told him the truth. (Also, advice for future directors, or anyone working on their feet for more than 8 hours a day. Bring a change of shoes. Change your shoes at lunch time. Your feet will thank you.) Since then I have worked across Canada on various projects. I was based in Northern Ontario for a while, and moved to Vancouver in 2019. I was a member of several film unions over the years (and I will get more into the benefits of unions below). Eventually, I had to step back from working on set in 2022 after going off the road driving to/from work twice in one year. I didn’t want to be the next obituary being sent out to all union members about another crew member dying in a car crash heading to work (It happens way more often than anyone is comfortable with). Since then I  have been working to develop new skills and various income threads, as well as working as a Production Coordinator in Animation and re-immersing myself in my favorite things (like visual arts and photography) as I prepare myself for the next chapter in this adventure called life. 

So, as you approach your career, embrace the chaos of your journey, be open to diverse opportunities, and understand that perseverance, flexibility, and a willingness to explore are your  toward establishing yourself in the film industry. Embrace your interests and passions. As I mentioned before, the arts are intersectional and there are so many more stories out there that haven’t been told and you could be the one to bring that knowledge to the world. Study things that interest you, see the world. Who knows, you could have the next “Love. Laugh. Love” or “Big Bang Theory” when you’re done. 

Art is a business. Business is an art. Source:      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_is_a_Business

Art/Film/Theatre – You are a Business:

Time to debunk the myth – the arts/film/theatre/music/etc are all businesses, not just passion-driven artistry. Think of yourself as a brand, a business entity with expenses, investments, and yes, taxes. It’s a reality check that many artists overlook. We love to create, we love to make art, but it’s way more than that. To anyone who thinks the “creative” arts are not a valid career path: challenge them to live without music, podcasts, television, news, or the internet for 30 days, and watch how quickly they realize the importance of entertainment. We saw this recently with the writers and actors strike. Everyone is mad about their shows being delayed/canceled/etc while the people who are on the very front lines of making this content aren’t getting paid fair wages or having any protections around the sanctity of their job, especially with the explosion of AI (which I will get more into in a future blog post.) Networks have put on reruns, Jeopardy has been reusing questions from past shows while the writers walked the picket line. There is a lot of money going around in the film industry but it doesn’t always get spread around evenly. Sometimes you need to fight to get paid your due. I am lucky that I never had a production straight up refuse to pay me after shooting, but I have heard horror stories from other creatives who spend years trying to get paid for their work. Some eventually give up. 

So, find a balance for yourself between your creative passions and the background work needed to sustain living. There are lots of ways to do this, and this was a lesson I learned a bit too late in the game. Make it part of your strategy now and save yourself the grief and struggles. 

Image Source: https://minutes.co/how-to-network-when-you-hate-networking/

Building Your Brand and Networking:

As mentioned, YOU are a brand. Whether you are an actor, writer, above the line or below the line creatives or crew, how you behave and present yourself in person and online matters.  Like a lot of industries, getting work in film and theatre is often more about who you know rather than what you know. (Not always, but it always helps to have a connection.) I once got a call offering me a PA job on a film, but then an hour later they had to call back and rescind the offer because they hadn’t known that one of the producers had already hired their nephew for the role. It sucks, but there’s not much you can do about it. So, get out there to networking events. There really is no substitute for being in the room. You never know when opportunity might knock. Make yourself known in the best ways possible, be kind, responsible and a team player. This a new era where showcasing your work, maintaining an updated portfolio, and flaunting your following can actually make a difference. Understand who you are and what you stand for, especially if you are presenting yourself as a writer/actor/content creator. Your online presence becomes as important as any resume or official demo reel. But here’s a word of caution – be mindful online, understand the permanence of the internet, and engage in purposeful, positive interactions.

Continuous Learning and Adaptability:

Experiences shape your journey which in turn shapes your creativity and content.  Life is a continuous learning process where every project, every setback, and every triumph contributes to your growth. Even when you leave high school or university and join the workforce, in any field, you never truly stop learning. And the more you learn, the more effective you become in the future. This is true for all industries. There is always a new skill or credential you can obtain, formally and informally. In software, coding languages are constantly evolving and often what students learn in university is already obsolete by the time they graduate. Obtaining a degree is not the end of education, it’s a stepping stone towards future opportunities. In film they have started offering Micro credentials through universities in BC and Ontario to fill the labour gaps in production management, content creation, social media management, accounting and more. Even now, I just signed up for a new micro-credential course starting in a few weeks in accounting. I used to sleep through high school math, and script supervising I was adding fractions and time. So, who knows where this new skill will take me, but regardless, everyone probably could use a little accounting training in their lives.  

Live, experience, try to make smart financial choices, and seize every opportunity that comes your way. The film industry, and the arts in general, are dynamic, unpredictable, and ever-evolving. Embrace the uncertainty, be open to the unexpected, and keep that hunger for learning alive.

Source: Cassandra Frechette’s Archives. Pouring Rain on the set of James Vs His Future Self.

Reality of the Film Industry:

There is often a prevailing image that working in film is all at the level of the glamorous film festivals, galas and award shows. But the truth is very few of the people involved in the various levels of production actually get to attend and experience those.  Day to day, working in film (and many other arts) can feel like a very blue collar job. Construction works, estheticians, electricians, food services, transport drivers and locations departments are just some of the examples. Not to mention the long hours, in all weather types. If you are working in North America, you are going to be working long days. Unless you have a schedule constraint out of your control (child actors location restrictions) you are likely going to be working minimum 12 hour days. The shortest shoot days I’ve ever been offered are 10 hours (though there are minimum calls for union members but I will touch on that below.) The longest day I ever worked was 26 hours (on Canada Day even, I made bank that day). I was a Location Support Pa at the time, and in that case they had just forgotten to officially wrap us, and we couldn’t get a hold of anyone to find out if we were allowed to leave. But I have known other people who have worked 36 or more hours straight on set or as a driver for a set.  The hours are brutal, and for non union productions it can be even worse. I have worked on shoots that promised no more than a 12 hour day but didn’t pay overtime and worked us 16 or more hours a day, because they could. Because of the unique situation of the film industry, regular labour laws don’t apply. What you negotiate and have written in your contract is your only defense in those situations. Know your worth, and don’t settle for less (especially if your mental or physical health is at risk).

As we witnessed recently with the WGA and the SAG strikes, the industry is not stable. The economy, politics, and even the seasons affect the ebbs and flows of the industries. No matter what department you are in, it’s always good to plan for unexpected lulls in the industry. I often joke that I either have time to do things, or the money to do things. But never both at the same time. Many crew members I know take jobs in various departments, many people have side hustles to fill the time and make up for any lost income. When I first started in the industry I was given the bad advice of, “if you have a Plan B, you won’t dedicate yourself to Plan A, so don’t make a plan B.” Well I am here to tell you, have a Plan B, and Plans C, D, E, and F. Honestly if you can find yourself 4-6 different income streams to fill in for the ebbs and flows of the industry you will be way more secure than I ever felt. Especially in the early years of my career. 

Importance of Unions and Worker Protections:

I’ll hit you with a sobering fact: the average age of death in the Canadian film industry is apparently only 55. Which is definitely a wakeup call. I’ve seen it firsthand, especially in physically demanding departments like transport, camera and grips. Long hours and physically demanding work in unforgiving conditions. Luckily in Canada we have a strong union presence in the film industry. Unions, such as IATSE, Nabet, ACFC, Actra, teamsters, the DGC and many other organizations play a crucial role in providing protections around working conditions, rates and overtime, training and other crucial benefits for workers. By banding together and bargaining collectively the unions are able to secure stable income for its members, with regards to inflation/cost of living/etc; things non-union crew members have to negotiate on a 1 on 1 basis. In many positions there is always someone there willing to do it cheaper. I once heard that “if a high schooler thinks your job looks cool, the pay is going to be low and the competition is going to be high.) Industry standards and undercutting are constant conversations in so many facets of the arts, which adds to the struggle of making a living. 

A big problem is that a good percentage of the industry is still not unionized, for various reasons. Budgets aren’t always big enough to qualify for union participation, corporate films, animation, reality TV and so much more often are left to fend for themselves. There have been shifts towards changing this, but the non union market will always be there in one form or another. And most workers start in non union environments to even get the experience to be able to join the unions in the first place. 

Unions can also be limited though. By that very collective contact and by the fact that it’s not responsible for the quality of the production, just the workers. If a show doesn’t hire enough crew, it shouldn’t be the fault of the existing crew. Though, for myself, I struggled with this. It’s my name in the credits even if I was overworked and under-crewed. I just felt like there was an increased pressure on my own shoulders because it was my name on the show, and I didn’t want my work to be anything less than professional quality.  I didn’t know how to wipe my hands clean of things I had no control of. Part of that was my PTSD and ADHD. My aforementioned early experiences feeling like I had to push through even when I was sick or in pain, didn’t translate well to when I was older and needed to assert myself for my own wellbeing. But even after being diagnosed it took a few years and an almost complete separation from the industry for me to start to heal. And I hope no one who reads this has to go through that same experience I did. 

Image of Fire
Source: Cassandra Frechette’s photo Archives

Cautionary Note on Burnout:

As I have mentioned, the film industry has very little glamour and red carpets in the day to day (unless the scene calls for it.) The work is grueling, with long hours and intense schedules. You’ve been warned (hopefully multiple times by the time you’ve read this blog). I’ve been there, felt the burn. The industry’s demanding nature requires a reality check on self-care. Early in my career I was convinced I had to be willing to go that extra mile or I would be replaced. Or called weak because I needed a bathroom break after being outside in the rain for 8 hours without access to a bathroom. I’ve been shamed for having to leave the set, injured or sick, having others brag that they have never had to take a day off. Like, thanks dude, that makes me feel SO much better. It’s like being kicked when you are already down. I pushed on when I should have backed down. I let myself get talked out of filling in a health and safety report after being injured, because I was tough enough to deal. (Spoiler: 15 years after the injury I don’t feel so tough anymore). I hope my cautionary tale is a reminder that success in the film industry should never come at the expense of your mental and physical health. It’s a marathon, not a sprint, and pacing yourself is key. The glitz and glam come at a cost, and maintaining a balance between your professional and personal life is non-negotiable.

Volunteer Work:

I have mixed feelings about volunteer work in the film industry. Some parts of the industry, like film festivals, the quality of the volunteers can make or break the events. But I worked for little to nothing on many projects that should never have been asking for “volunteers”. Volunteering can be the key to unlocking valuable experience and as a way to tap into the community, not all opportunities are created equal. Yes, you want to build experience and your network, but is the value of the experience worth the work? Things like the CFC and other educational organizations also rely on volunteers to provide their students with real industry experience and contacts and have way more value to the beginner script supervisor/grip/camera assistant etc than a short film that no one is going to ever see. And the food is gonna be better too. I’ve worked on projects where they promised a feast for breakfast and lunch to make up for the fact that it was unpaid or low paid, only to show up and find a banana and a warm bottle of tap water is the top serving offered. 

Take the time to assess low/no pay “opportunities” when you are just getting started. Research who is making the project and what they plan to do with it. Is this going to be something you can use to help promote yourself? Is this something you will be proud to be a part of?  Is it a friend or peer making a small project that you want to see their passion come to life? Is that the kind of friend who would also volunteer to show up for you on your indie project? In general, it’s usually good to beware of productions offering “exposure” in lieu of pay. Some people die from exposure. 

To Sum Up:

As you step into this dynamic and ever-evolving world, be mindful of your well-being. Success is not measured solely by accolades but by the balance you maintain between your professional and personal life. Let the lessons from my burnout caution you against the pitfalls of relentless pursuit.

So, fellow storytellers, venture forth. Embrace the uncertainties, savor the challenges, and revel in the joys of creating art that leaves an indelible mark on hearts and screens alike. Your journey in the film industry awaits, and the adventure promises to be nothing short of cinematic magic. Roll camera, and action!

Advice (list):

  • Be Nice (no one wants to work with a jerk)
  • Understand the roles of the people around you. It will make you, and the team as a whole, more effective. 
  • Embrace and Explore your Passions and Interests, you never know where you will find a good story. 
  • Change your shoes at lunch. Classic advice for directors but great for ANYONE on their feet for more than 6 hours a day. 
  • You are a brand, You are a business. Think of what you stand for or represent and make yourself visible online so that others can find you. 
  • Never Stop Learning. You are a student of life and you’re experiences inform your story telling.
  • Make yourself seen (online and in person)
  • Get involved! There is no replacement for being in the room. Value networking opportunities. 
  • Multiple  Revenue Streams – prepare for the ebbs and flows with other interests and opportunities.
  • Jobs can go to other people, but there is no replacement for YOU! Take care of yourself.

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Transcript for “Advice for Young Creators”

Video Recorded Jan 10, 2024 Beaver Brae High School, Kenora Ontario.

00:00:00:16 – 00:00:24:23
CASSANDRA
So hello again, Cassandra. First question. So I’ve spent most of my career as a script supervisor. Does anybody know what that means? Continuity. Making sure the actors say their lines correctly and making sure the camera angles match. Making sure you get to post-production. Didn’t miss and insert. You didn’t miss anything. Everything that’s going on said that’s going on camera is my responsibility.

00:00:25:00 – 00:00:49:19
CASSANDRA
I get to tell other people that I’m sorry your props are wrong or you brought the wrong jacket, you bought the wrong costume, which has happened numerous times. But I’m like the last line of defense. So when you see something nitpickers.com, it’s like nitpickers.com is pretty much the shame page for Script supervisors. I’ve worked with people who have been in the industry for 20 years and have no idea what the script supervisor was doing behind the sc- back in Video Village.

00:00:49:21 – 00:01:12:08
CASSANDRA
So yeah, it’s everything you have to understand eyeline That’s my next question to you that you got here. A couple of you were doing videos for your upcoming projects. Do you understand? I know I’m all right. So between us, there’s a straight line. If the camera’s on this side of me and this side of you, it’s going to look like we’re looking at each other when we’re talking.

00:01:12:14 – 00:01:33:22
CASSANDRA
So I like the psychological trick of looking at each other, because when you’re filming, you might have a camera right in front of you and you’re not looking at the the actor that you’re acting to. So that trick of where you’re looking. So when you edit it together, it’s psychologically looks like you’re looking at each other Again, the number of people who do not know what this means.

00:01:34:00 – 00:01:50:12
CASSANDRA
And then you get people like both looking off into the distance instead of looking at each other and like, what are they looking at? It’s like there’s there’s both coming off to the right side of the screen. There’s nothing off on the left side of the screen. This is why back in old films, they had the buffalo shot, which is because they would just set it up.

00:01:50:12 – 00:02:11:18
CASSANDRA
They didn’t understand the eye lines and the psychological (effects). So they just shoot a shot of a buffalo. And then they had the cowboys and Indians both running cut to a shot of a buffalo in between them. So you wouldn’t realize that they’re both running in the same direction a little over. I’m used to being behind the scenes and not on camera, so if I’m a bit awkward, I apologize.

00:02:11:18 – 00:02:35:14
CASSANDRA
I kind of had to make myself notes. So the script supervisor acts as we’ve already got more knowledge than some people who’ve been in the industry for ten years. So I hear a lot of you want to be writers, which is amazing. We need we always need writers. The biggest thing is it’s never going to be consistent. Your- there’s going to be so much

00:02:35:16 – 00:02:56:18
CASSANDRA
Like anything in the film industry, you’re never going to want to dedicate all in on one thing. You’re going to have multiple revenue streams. So if you’re doing writing on another project, having a part time, a boring part time job is completely fine and it’s honestly going to help you out because write what you know, people want to see themselves on screen.

00:02:56:20 – 00:03:20:19
CASSANDRA
And if all you know is film and writing and artists, then that’s what you’re going to write and your audience is going to be much smaller because it’s not going to be the plumber. Who’s the plumber is not going to relate to that writer character. So when it comes to university, I have talked people out of going into creative writing because you’re studying the history of creating, writing, creative writing.

00:03:20:21 – 00:03:52:19
CASSANDRA
You’re learning how to write like people did in the past. You’re not exploring what’s happening right now. So communications, science, English, anything, history, anything that actually exists in this world, there’s so much inspiration out there. You have the Big Bang Theory, where writers have PHDs in science and physics. LetterKenny, which if you haven’t seen Letterkenny, it started as shorts on YouTube shot in Ontario, shot in Sudbury actually and it’s all about that town.

00:03:52:19 – 00:04:19:10
CASSANDRA
It’s actually based in Lindsay Ontario. But they changed the name to Letterkenny and the other big one is Live, Laugh, Love. She went off and gave up her life and went on adventures and wrote a book on it and that it became a movie. It’s all life experience. So where are the stories coming from? We want to see real things and they say television is furniture.

00:04:19:12 – 00:04:49:19
CASSANDRA
Theater is life, and film is art. But art still connects it all.
What am I? Forget it. Because I’m going forgetting something and connecting with your audience if you are going to go niche. I worked on a web series called Carmilla, which is Lesbian Vampires. It was written 25 years before Dracula and it was a novella and they modernized it, set it in a university for a journalism project, and it became huge in that niche lesbian market.

00:04:49:21 – 00:05:11:02
CASSANDRA
It became almost required reading for some people, but it was campy, it was fun. They got into the mythology and talking to the writers, just like I would just throw out like, Oh yeah, I know the history here. I know like, Oh, this character, you talk about werewolves, but you don’t see any. It’s like they know the the background and the history.

00:05:11:03 – 00:05:35:10
CASSANDRA
They can get into the lore. So if there’s a future season, they do bring that in. It’s already established within the world. Contrarily, worked on a TV movie that was … there was a demon coming back. It’s one of those really, really formatted horror films. But I asked the writer, who was also the director, like, Well, why does the demon do these things?

00:05:35:14 – 00:06:02:12
CASSANDRA
It’s so it’s fantasy. Nobody doesn’t matter. And they have no there’s no connection. And it felt the plot felt flat because there is I don’t understand why the demon? But for sci fi TV, that’s what the audiences want. It’s very, very common. There’s always work in Hallmark. They make about 50 to 100 new Christmas movies every year. So if you like that format, lots of people do.

00:06:02:12 – 00:06:26:13
CASSANDRA
It is huge, especially in the Bible Belt. I five years stuck in Christmas purgatory where I was making Christmas movies in the summer because they have to be ready for Christmas and then working at a prop set house building decorations for Christmas display. So five years, half the year on set, Christmas half the year in the studio, Christmas.

00:06:26:13 – 00:07:02:05
CASSANDRA
There’s too much Christmas, but they play them all year round and they’ll get repeated play. And every time, if you’ve written one and every time it’s aired, you’re getting paid. If you if you’re into writing and you want to get into series, embrace your fan fiction because it’s teaching you working within the plotline of the show, it’s learning how to keep the characters consistent and maintaining like an original storyline, but also following the the plots of the overall structure of the overall series.

00:07:02:07 – 00:07:26:15
CASSANDRA
So if you’ve done some spec fiction, if you’ve done a couple of works and the fan fiction is something that you enjoy doing, use it in your portfolio because it will. It is a proof that you can work in that that field and in that format. You’re probably going to start as a script assistant or a script coordinator before getting into the writer’s room.

00:07:26:15 – 00:07:55:23
CASSANDRA
But having that portfolio is even going to get you that assistant position. Nothing compares to being in the room. Like your presence, like showing up for yourself and for the production or for whatever background and nothing can can replace that. So it’s really obvious when people are phoning it in and nobody wants to be on set with someone for 16 hours a day who’s not pulling their weight up like theatre

00:07:55:23 – 00:08:21:06
CASSANDRA
It’s a small industry and anything you do is going to get around. So don’t be mean, don’t be a jerk, be nice to somebody that what people want to hang out with, because I’m not going to lie here in North America film. It’s usually a minimum 12 hour day, the longest day ever worked is 26 hours and people laugh at me and call me weak because they’ve done 36 hours straight.

00:08:21:08 – 00:08:52:21
CASSANDRA
The industry is changing and as the next generation, you have the power to make things better. When I started, there was interns. We didn’t get paid. There was a big kerfuffle about interns getting- not getting paid. Now interns get paid. Things are changing slowly. When I first started, people were still flagging around their their looks and their union rules guides that said sexual harassment happens, deal with it.

00:08:52:23 – 00:09:12:22
CASSANDRA
That does not actually exis- that was back in the seventies. They’ve haven’t looked at the new contract yet. So if somebody is coming in like waving a rule in your face, make sure it’s the most recent one, because some people like to hold on to their or their past regulations that aren’t enforceable and pretend like they can.

00:09:13:00 – 00:09:26:00
CASSANDRA
I’m getting a little off topic. But shit happens. Oh, right.

00:09:26:01 – 00:09:53:18
CASSANDRA
Um, let’s get more into crew or just regular crew stuff. Unions provide a lot of benefits. Nonunion, unfortunately, a lot of you are going to start with nonunion productions, and they are the Wild West of film. And not just because they often do westerns, but there is no guidelines because of lobbyists and because the film industry is different than regular, regular employment and labor standards.

00:09:53:18 – 00:10:18:02
CASSANDRA
And labor rules do not apply to film sets, which is why the union is like, if you are the union, you have a backing, but you have no regulation, you have no laws protecting you in the nonunion world, which is why it is extremely important to know your limits, to know your boundaries and know what’s right for you and not be willing to accept dangerous situations.

00:10:18:04 – 00:10:40:05
CASSANDRA
Never let anybody convince you not to fill in in any workplace injury report if you have it, even if it’s just a paper to fill in that report. Because if it gets an infection or if there’s a bacteria or something I’ve been talked out of filling in a report on one of my first movies that I worked on, I might have to go into surgery for my foot because it’s healed wrong.

00:10:40:05 – 00:11:14:18
CASSANDRA
And now I have muscle damage, degenerative issues. That was 15 years ago and at the time I didn’t think it was anything. Now I’m suffering the consequences. So let me be a cautionary tale. You personally, your body, you are irreplaceable. Nobody else is like you. Please protect yourself. No movie, no job, no TV show, no cool effect, no awesome shot is worth your mind, your body or your life. Um, death in the film industry is a huge issue.

00:11:14:20 – 00:11:38:14
CASSANDRA
I actually just posted a blog on Monday about burnout in the film industry. The average age of death in the Canadian film industry is 55, and that just depending on what department you work in, it can be in the forties. Transport departments; They’re the ones that often doing 36 hours shift without a break. They’re the ones driving.

00:11:38:14 – 00:11:43:22
CASSANDRA
You around and they’re not getting proper rest.

00:11:44:00 – 00:12:13:16
CASSANDRA
They are in their forties . For hair, makeup, wardrobe, Often just have to be on set – Like the clock starts at call time. So the calls at ten, 10 to 10, that is, but pre calls your grips, your electrics, your camera departments are there that are there for 2 hours before . Hair, Makeup wardrobe could be there were 6 hours before and the clock doesn’t start until call for the day to start. They’re going to be paid but the timer on when the day’s going to be over hasn’t started.

00:12:13:18 – 00:12:34:13
CASSANDRA
So and a lot of people are not… you don’t trade off halfway through the day, especially if you’re a lead. You are there from start to finish. And then the next day. I had one show where I got home and I had 2 hours before I had to leave to get back to set. I have, as a script supervisor, I usually have an hour to 2 hours of paperwork when I get home.

00:12:34:15 – 00:13:01:23
CASSANDRA
My job is not done on set is done, so I have to go collect all the information, make it make sense to the editors and all the editorial reports to make sure that, yes, we did everything we said we were going to shoot or no, we didn’t need to come back and do this. It is not sustainable. I have in my last year, before I moved off of set to work in the Office in Animation, I went off the road twice, driving home from work.

00:13:02:01 – 00:13:28:20
CASSANDRA
I asked for accommodation, either put me up in a hotel or drive me. They said, No, you’re fine. I went off the road and I had to show up at work next days and do my job because I was a script supervisor. I’m a department of one. I don’t even get an assistant. Like if I was running three sets and one shoot, we were in a studio and they wouldn’t give me an assistant to run even one of the other two sets.

00:13:28:22 – 00:13:47:15
CASSANDRA
So I have three sets, three monitors, three directors plan on collecting all of the information for all of them. I should have walked, but I was in my mind. I have to do this. I have to stick it out because it’s going to be bad for my reputation. Protecting yourself is never wrong. Standing up for yourself is never wrong.

00:13:47:16 – 00:14:06:12
CASSANDRA
And this is something that I could have been told when I was here in grade 12. I would have done a lot better. But I had a drama teacher that when I told her I was going into film, laughed in my face. So you are already doing way better than most people in my class because you actually have a teacher who knows what she’s talking about.

00:14:06:14 – 00:14:28:16
CASSANDRA
You just have to throw that in there. So many different departments on set. I’ve worked with directors that they’ve never done anything but write and direct and they show up and they have these they have $100,000 budget and they have these grand plans. They want to do all of these things. It’s like you realize that’s $100,000 just for that one shot.

00:14:28:18 – 00:15:05:18
CASSANDRA
It’s not possible. Or they’re asking people to do like things that are unsafe or just physically impossible because they don’t know what to what can be done. So if you are interested in even if you want to be a director, take a job, take a a sound assistant job, take the camera assistant job, take a grip job, an electric job, learn what people are doing because people who are respected and feel appreciated are going to work so much harder for you. Directors, who, just like I had no respect for you because you’re just a worker and I’m the director, aren’t going to get the quality of work from their crew that directors who shake their

00:15:06:00 – 00:15:21:22
CASSANDRA
hand and say, thank you at the end of the day, like it is night and day, like you can’t come back. Don’t be an asshole. You don’t have to lie. You do not have to be there. People don’t have to hire you. People don’t have to bring you back. So it’s hard enough in the industry is hard enough.

00:15:21:22 – 00:15:45:09
CASSANDRA
Don’t make it harder on yourself or others. But bw good to each other. I’m Anybody know the difference between a grip and an electrical on set So they often get- grip and electrics departments often get grouped together, but the grips are the ones who build all the infrastructure. They put the sheets in front of the lights, they put up the stands.

00:15:45:11 – 00:16:12:21
CASSANDRA
The electrics are the ones handling the lights and doing anything with electricity. They have very distinct jobs, but very rarely do they t- d grips touch the power source and very rarely will one of the electrics dealing with the lights be the one up in front forming the shade and like putting the gobos up. Grips can build. And I like to say that film set is the best place for a zombie apocalypse because you have every skill set.

00:16:12:21 – 00:16:35:13
CASSANDRA
You’ve got the organizers, you’ve got food, you’ve got the people who can build, you’ve got the people who can clothe you. You’ve got a couple of people who are a little bit extra. So if the animals are coming in, you need to leave them behind It, It really becomes a community and like you can be with those people for nine months and you might not see your family for nine months.

00:16:35:13 – 00:17:00:15
CASSANDRA
So it’s going to start to feel like these people are your family. They are not your family, they’re coworkers. And please don’t mix those relationships. Dating on set is always a touchy thing because you never know if you break up a date, someone on a show and you’re on there for nine months and you break up and start to work with them, there has been some drama there.

00:17:00:15 – 00:17:23:04
CASSANDRA
So being able to deal with personalities and leave the baggage at the door, that’s a big thing in theater. But even in film, you shut the door and if you can’t, then like step back and say I was. But when I stepped back, I was having panic attacks every day. I got diagnosed with PTSD from working on set and I couldn’t show up on set.

00:17:23:04 – 00:17:54:23
CASSANDRA
They’re having a panic attack. So I step back then. Animation. We have so many animation studios in and it’s getting bigger. So production coordinating. There’s other film related jobs that are in the industry. There is the government administrator jobs, there’s putting out the permits. There’s behind the screens. There’s social media. There is media content in every single industry, in science, in in education, in business. There’s-

00:17:55:05 – 00:18:19:00
CASSANDRA
Arts is intersectional. And it goes back to like studying something worth writing about because if you have experience with science or engineering, then an engineering company that needs a media person or or a writer for for content, you’ve already got the skills in the back. So if you have find ways to merge your interests and find ways to diversify your income.

00:18:19:00 – 00:18:39:10
CASSANDRA
So if you’re writing on one thing and you have take I used to transcribe now AI transcribes, so that used to be my like really great oh, I’m in between sets, I can just sit home and type. Nope. Can’t do that anymore. Reality TV was really big, because they had three hour interviews for every like 1 seconds clip of audio that they would put on.

00:18:39:12 – 00:19:00:01
CASSANDRA
So then before we had the automated transcribing, it would literally just be there 3 hours sitting and trying to just transcribe some drink person from Come Dine with Me Canada or Master- or some one master chef at the end of the day being like, Oh, this is what I did. And describing all of the things. Um, but that (job )doesn’t exist anymore.

00:19:00:01 – 00:19:26:08
CASSANDRA
So can AI tools – a quick comment. AI is a tool. It is not a substitute for creativity. I honestly I believe that it is the future. There are things that it’s inevitable. The cat’s out of the bag. There’s no sense in vilifying it. There’s we need to find a way to work within it. Um, I personally, I hate first drafts, a blank page, hate it, but

00:19:26:08 – 00:19:45:05
CASSANDRA
write – If I write the outline and throw it in the AI, there’s a first draft. It’s like the Reddit. I like the the Reddit ideology. If something’s wrong, you have to fix it. Like, if you want to answer on Reddit, you don’t ask the question, you make a wrong statement, and then everybody’s going to correct you. So that trick yourself, I got to trick myself.

00:19:45:05 – 00:20:06:00
CASSANDRA
It’s like, okay, here’s a first draft. We’ll actually well, now I need to fix it. But there’s nothing more terrifying to me than a blank page. So find use the tools that you have. Don’t be afraid of them. Find different ways of making income. Whether you have a blog and you get ad money from like people clicking, do you have a YouTube channel?

00:20:06:00 – 00:20:36:23
CASSANDRA
And you were able to monetize? Yeah, you did there. How many people have made it on YouTube? Letterkenney started as YouTube Shorts, just monologues. . Carmilla was, uh, got a feature film after the three seasons of the web series. Blogs, talk, everything is content, everything is content, everything you do behind the scenes. Anyway. People want to laugh. People want to be entertained.

00:20:37:01 – 00:21:07:19
CASSANDRA
People have- a lot more people are getting diagnosed with ADHD. I got diagnosed at 36, which is also one of the reasons of PTSD. From me coping wrong and dealing with things wrong, but understanding that that was an issue has helped a lot. Being able to apply the appropriate coping mechanisms helps, and I was able to work on an animation for Headspace called The Magical Adventures of Unicorn Island, which is all about mindfulness but like aimed towards like ten year old.

00:21:07:19 – 00:21:37:03
CASSANDRA
I think adults should watch it, but it’s from Lilly Singh, who also started on YouTube doing video live videos every week. Now she’s doing tours across across the world. This Unicorn Island is her happy place that she mentioned in one of her videos and Headspace, the app about meditation jumped on that idea and partnered with her to make a ten episode series about meditation.

00:21:37:05 – 00:22:06:23
CASSANDRA
And finding your happy place. So being out there, like there’s not like again, there’s nothing’s substitutes for showing up and being there. Um, I have another topic and then of course, my friend, literally, uh, show your work. You always like you are your brand, you are your portfolio right now, like more than your resume is your online presence.

00:22:07:00 – 00:22:36:22
CASSANDRA
And this has been increasing. I’ve seen actors, I’ve been on set where they’re just deciding which actor do me do you hire the one that’s good or the one that has 2 million followers, The one that has 2 million followers. And unfortunately, that’s because they want to jump on that that network that she has. So if you have anything, if you have a following, put it forward, put your work up.

00:22:36:22 – 00:22:58:18
CASSANDRA
If you have a portfolio writing portfolio, start getting it up there because you can always update it, even if it’s not your best work. Now, in a year, maybe what now might not be your best part, but you could always replace like keep that up there. If you have a LinkedIn and everybody is connecting through LinkedIn and Facebook has actually been really useful.

00:22:58:18 – 00:23:25:11
CASSANDRA
There’s film groups, there’s connections, there’s communities, there’s support groups, job sharing. We’re like, Hey, I got an offer for a contract, but I can’t do it. Is anybody available? Definitely engage your community in anything online. Be careful, again. The internet is forever. So be care- like again, don’t be mean, don’t be rude, Don’t be controversial for no reason.

00:23:25:13 – 00:23:48:15
CASSANDRA
Like have a purpose. But leverage, uh Don’t wait until you’re like graduated university. Just start building that portfolio and get yourself out there because you get just like any job. It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. If you’ve gotten an interview, they’ve already decided you can do the job and they want to see who you are.

00:23:48:15 – 00:24:09:23
CASSANDRA
And if they can stand working with you. I’ve been in five person interviews where I’m across a panel of a five people and they’re all asking me personality questions and they all want to know if they can hang out with me for 18 hours a day, for five days a week, for six months. Personality matters. Ok. What else do I have to say?

00:24:10:01 – 00:24:37:17
CASSANDRA
Show your work.
Art is a business. You are a business. You are a brand. So think about what do you stand for? What’s what do you support and engage in? Volunteer always- like volunteer work, always looks good. How can you support community? How can you support yourself? But never forget that this is a business. You have to do your taxes.

00:24:37:19 – 00:25:19:08
CASSANDRA
You have to keep track of all of your your expenses. If you invest in equipment, you need to keep track of that and all your maintenance. But don’t think of yourself like a lot of people. Like, Oh, you’re an artist. You do this because you love it. It’s like now you do this because it’s a business. And without that business, nobody’s going to have their Brooklyn 99 or reality TV or Shameless or any of those other shows but anybody who says, like No Art, it, art has no value, challenge them to engage in no music, no podcast, no television, no, no news, no Internet for .. for 30 days, and see how

00:25:19:08 – 00:25:50:04
CASSANDRA
long it takes them to say that no art is important and that entertainment is valuable. Just because they think they can do it doesn’t mean they can. I love challenging people like I could. Yeah. Oh, sure. You’re trying that too.
Art is intersectional. There’s always crosses and everything. You are students in life now, like your experiences are going to fuel everything you do.

00:25:50:05 – 00:26:18:08
CASSANDRA
So live, experience, obviously try and make smart financial choices, but take your opportunities and you never know where you’re going to end up because there’s been some weird things. One thing I did mention on the prop story, um, this comes on that like stay in your lane. Is, unless, in nonunion, a lot of people step up and like help out.

00:26:18:09 – 00:26:27:11
CASSANDRA
But in union sets, when it comes down to departments, if you’re not supposed to be touching and you’re not supposed to be interacting with it, don’t interact with it.

00:26:27:11 – 00:26:29:00
CASSANDRA
Always report injuries.

00:26:29:00 – 00:26:59:22
CASSANDRA
What else? Animation is interesting. Even working in the office, you get the opportunity sometimes to do scratch audio. So you’re in pre-production and the animators need to know how they act like, what the lines are going to be kind of show making characters emote with the actors haven’t recorded the line yet, they’ll recruit the crew to just do some scratch audio, so if you’re practicing voiceover or if you’re into voice acting at all, then it’s a great place to actually like you’re in in the industry.

00:26:59:22 – 00:27:28:21
CASSANDRA
Like, you’re right there and it’s very unlikely that you would get actually cast for that role. But then you have the practice and you’re you’re more once again being seen, being people know you. There’s no replacement for that. I don’t know how long I’ve been talking about, you know. No. And I think that’s actually me. Just quickly, multiple revenue streams.

00:27:28:21 – 00:27:52:07
CASSANDRA
Yeah. You’re going to see a lot of people like you can make it like me! But they’re teaching and like they’re getting all the money from teaching, not actually doing the things. So always trust but verify. I hate to quote Reagan, but it is kind of a good quote. But honestly, like, yeah, make sure. And once you verify that it’s not good, don’t stick around for hope.

00:27:52:08 – 00:28:07:02
CASSANDRA
Don’t. Yeah don’t get scammed for apartments, you know, because damn, I’m looking at for an apartment right now and 90% of the things that’s just like the price. All right, let’s, I guess, questions, answers?

00:28:07:02 – 00:28:10:01
STUDENT
So is there something that, like you have.

00:28:10:01 – 00:28:12:22
STUDENT
Like an idea for and then when you actually go to.

00:28:12:22 – 00:28:19:15
STUDENT
Do or something it turns out complete opposite and you want to walk away from that and start it all over again.

00:28:19:15 – 00:28:40:23
CASSANDRA
And you have to like, change everything you do like so you get to the shop and you set it all up and you say, something’s not working. Let’s, let’s, let’s discuss. I’ve definitely been on some shoots, like my own indie shoots where you get there and it’s like, this is the script and this is what’s happening.

00:28:41:01 – 00:29:04:00
CASSANDRA
Well, can you work with what’s happening right now? Or like, is this really it’s not fitting? And most people, they want it to be good. They want to succeed. They want to see the projects like they everybody wants the project to be something that they can brag about. So if as long as you’re respectful and polite, as polite as you can be, like something’s not working, let’s make it.

00:29:04:00 – 00:29:09:13
CASSANDRA
But if most people are amendable to that unless they have an ego.

00:29:10:18 – 00:29:27:00
CASSANDRA
So it’s a lot of politics and sometimes there’s nothing you can do to make thing to save it. And if it’s above your head and somebody else is making the decision, hands off, that decision is made.

00:29:27:00 – 00:29:41:22
STUDENT Do you have a favourite project you worked on?
CASSANDRA Answer: Carmilla, because the entire crew, it was so hilarious to work on. We did 136 pages, four days.

00:29:42:00 – 00:30:11:14
CASSANDRA
We did 36 and ten minute episodes in four days, and it was all like webcam style. So like from the webcam. So everything in this one was all this was a real theatre It was a real mix of theatre staging and film and just the, the public perception of the vibe on set and the content. It was just like, this is it’s just fun and I’m about to the stage.

00:30:11:14 – 00:30:14:16
CASSANDRA
It still makes me happy to think about it.

00:30:14:18 – 00:30:22:04
STUDENT
And so is how do you find different jobs that are different.

00:30:22:06 – 00:30:49:20
CASSANDRA
Like film, like gigs? Like is there websites or…? Yup. actually I’ve started a spreadsheet that I’ve shared with Heather that she’s going to share with you. There’s Media Job Search Canada, Mandy.com used to be a free one, now it’s paid, it’s not quite as good. Craiglist. My first job, I got was thru Craigslist. I applied for a PA job on a reality show that was doing a feature on Busker Fest in Toronto.

00:30:49:22 – 00:31:36:00
CASSANDRA
So I put in a resume. 5 minutes later I got a call and I was on set the next day. And so Craigslist, there’s media job search. If you’re interested in camera department, there’s the camera union, which has a trainee program which is circulating around what is easiest ways to get on set. Facebook groups like Searching for crew, Student Films, CFC in Toronto, which is a Canadian film center, they often have volunteer positions because everyone’s a student. When it comes to volunteer work, I’m conflicted because at one point I guess you need to do volunteer work to get the experience, and I’ve worked on projects that have requested volunteers that should have been paying people.

00:31:36:01 – 00:31:53:18
CASSANDRA
So again, use your judgment how much value does being on set for no money provide you? Are they providing food? I’ve been on sets where they’ve gone on no, don’t worry. We’ll- we’ll feed you and you’ll you’ll get credit and everything. And I show up and literally a banana and one bottle of water on the table.

00:31:53:18 – 00:31:57:23
CASSANDRA
It’s like, um… how is this going to feed 50 of us.

00:31:58:00 – 00:32:23:10
CASSANDRA
So use your judgment. Yeah. So, Mandy.com Media job search Canada. I found a lot on Facebook, to be honest. And then part of it is just leveraging your community and the hidden job market, as I like to call it, and the career circles and employment counseling. But there’s so much out there, it’s just what can you do? What’s viable?

00:32:23:12 – 00:32:42:12
CASSANDRA
And I once did a work on a feature film and it was a really I was really hard up. I like the movie I’m supposed to do, fell through a week before we’re supposed to get go on camera. And I turned down two other projects to work on the one that I already set. So I ended up working on a different project for $50 a day.

00:32:42:14 – 00:33:04:22
CASSANDRA
Um, there are some people that, that is all they have and they’re trying to make the passion project. But at least on on $50 a day, they were feeding us well and they were transporting us places, but um, uh… always judge the value of like, what am I getting out of this versus what is this costing me? Hopefully that answers… I’ve got a spreadsheet.

00:33:04:22 – 00:33:16:04
CASSANDRA
Some of it’s articles, some of is referral. Like some of these jobs are sites
TEACHER: I’ll be posting about our Google classrooms that you guys can access it.
CASSANDRA: And I’m going to keep updating as I go
TEACHER: most fantastic.
CASSANDRA I got more stuff. I realized.

00:33:16:04 – 00:33:20:20
CASSANDRA
Oh yeah, from these. Are there any other questions

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